
What we do in the first meeting
The first conversation is not a sales meeting. It is the first piece of legal work on the matter, and it is the one most likely to save you money.
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4 min
Written by
Elspeth Rowan

Written by
Elspeth Rowan
Called 1999
Every note is written by the partner who would run the matter, not by a marketing team.
Put a matter to us
Put a matter to us
Put a matter to us
In short
Bring the documents and the dates. Leave the conclusions to the meeting.

The room where first meetings happen
The room where first meetings happen
The first conversation is not a sales meeting. It is the first piece of legal work on the matter, and it is conducted by a partner because it is the point at which the most valuable advice is usually given.
We are listening for three things. What actually happened, in sequence and with dates. What documents exist and who else has them. And what you want at the end — which is often not the same as what you would be entitled to.
By the end of it we will usually be able to say whether the claim is worth investigating, what the next step costs, and whether there is a limitation or evidential problem that changes the answer.
We say don’t more often than clients expect. It is the cheapest advice we give and, on the evidence of our own files, the most valuable.
What we ask
We want the sequence and the dates first, because limitation and the availability of urgent relief both turn on them. Then the documents: what exists, who holds it, and whether anything has been destroyed or is subject to a retention policy that will destroy it shortly.
Finally we ask what a good outcome looks like to you. It is frequently not the pleaded remedy. Clients often want an apology, a clean separation, or certainty by a particular date — and knowing that changes how we run the matter.
What you get out of it
By the end of the conversation we will usually be able to tell you whether the claim is worth investigating, what the next step costs, and whether there is a limitation or evidential problem that changes the answer.
Why we sometimes say no
A claim that is legally sound but economically pointless is not worth bringing, and we would rather say so in the first half hour than after a year of costs. We keep a note of the matters we declined and why, because it is the most useful record we have of our own judgement.
We say don't more often than clients expect. It is the cheapest advice we give and the most valuable.
This note is general information, not advice on your matter. The facts change the answer, which is what the first conversation is for.
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What we do in the first meeting
The first conversation is not a sales meeting. It is the first piece of legal work on the matter, and it is the one most likely to save you money.
Filed under
Practice
Published
Reading time
4 min
Written by
Elspeth Rowan

Written by
Elspeth Rowan
Called 1999
Every note is written by the partner who would run the matter, not by a marketing team.
Put a matter to us
Put a matter to us
Put a matter to us
In short
Bring the documents and the dates. Leave the conclusions to the meeting.

The room where first meetings happen
The room where first meetings happen
The first conversation is not a sales meeting. It is the first piece of legal work on the matter, and it is conducted by a partner because it is the point at which the most valuable advice is usually given.
We are listening for three things. What actually happened, in sequence and with dates. What documents exist and who else has them. And what you want at the end — which is often not the same as what you would be entitled to.
By the end of it we will usually be able to say whether the claim is worth investigating, what the next step costs, and whether there is a limitation or evidential problem that changes the answer.
We say don’t more often than clients expect. It is the cheapest advice we give and, on the evidence of our own files, the most valuable.
What we ask
We want the sequence and the dates first, because limitation and the availability of urgent relief both turn on them. Then the documents: what exists, who holds it, and whether anything has been destroyed or is subject to a retention policy that will destroy it shortly.
Finally we ask what a good outcome looks like to you. It is frequently not the pleaded remedy. Clients often want an apology, a clean separation, or certainty by a particular date — and knowing that changes how we run the matter.
What you get out of it
By the end of the conversation we will usually be able to tell you whether the claim is worth investigating, what the next step costs, and whether there is a limitation or evidential problem that changes the answer.
Why we sometimes say no
A claim that is legally sound but economically pointless is not worth bringing, and we would rather say so in the first half hour than after a year of costs. We keep a note of the matters we declined and why, because it is the most useful record we have of our own judgement.
We say don't more often than clients expect. It is the cheapest advice we give and the most valuable.
This note is general information, not advice on your matter. The facts change the answer, which is what the first conversation is for.
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What we do in the first meeting
The first conversation is not a sales meeting. It is the first piece of legal work on the matter, and it is the one most likely to save you money.
Filed under
Practice
Published
Reading time
4 min
Written by
Elspeth Rowan

Written by
Elspeth Rowan
Called 1999
Every note is written by the partner who would run the matter, not by a marketing team.
Put a matter to us
Put a matter to us
Put a matter to us
In short
Bring the documents and the dates. Leave the conclusions to the meeting.

The room where first meetings happen
The room where first meetings happen
The first conversation is not a sales meeting. It is the first piece of legal work on the matter, and it is conducted by a partner because it is the point at which the most valuable advice is usually given.
We are listening for three things. What actually happened, in sequence and with dates. What documents exist and who else has them. And what you want at the end — which is often not the same as what you would be entitled to.
By the end of it we will usually be able to say whether the claim is worth investigating, what the next step costs, and whether there is a limitation or evidential problem that changes the answer.
We say don’t more often than clients expect. It is the cheapest advice we give and, on the evidence of our own files, the most valuable.
What we ask
We want the sequence and the dates first, because limitation and the availability of urgent relief both turn on them. Then the documents: what exists, who holds it, and whether anything has been destroyed or is subject to a retention policy that will destroy it shortly.
Finally we ask what a good outcome looks like to you. It is frequently not the pleaded remedy. Clients often want an apology, a clean separation, or certainty by a particular date — and knowing that changes how we run the matter.
What you get out of it
By the end of the conversation we will usually be able to tell you whether the claim is worth investigating, what the next step costs, and whether there is a limitation or evidential problem that changes the answer.
Why we sometimes say no
A claim that is legally sound but economically pointless is not worth bringing, and we would rather say so in the first half hour than after a year of costs. We keep a note of the matters we declined and why, because it is the most useful record we have of our own judgement.
We say don't more often than clients expect. It is the cheapest advice we give and the most valuable.
This note is general information, not advice on your matter. The facts change the answer, which is what the first conversation is for.
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The application is the cheap part. The cross-undertaking in damages is what should decide whether you bring it.
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Enforcement is not the last stage of an arbitration. It is the first question, and it should be answered before the notice is served.
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